Comments on: Iceland software resellers being screwed by disappearing clients and licensing contracts http://pipka.org/blog/2009/03/12/iceland-software-resellers-being-screwed-by-disappearing-clients-and-licensing-contracts/ ... taking over the world like we always do! Sun, 06 May 2012 23:27:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: SaaSonhand http://pipka.org/blog/2009/03/12/iceland-software-resellers-being-screwed-by-disappearing-clients-and-licensing-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-1459 SaaSonhand Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:36:45 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=884#comment-1459 it happens most of the time with some of the IT industries...it's nothing new... it happens most of the time with some of the IT industries…it’s nothing new…

]]> By: greebo http://pipka.org/blog/2009/03/12/iceland-software-resellers-being-screwed-by-disappearing-clients-and-licensing-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-1315 greebo Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:43:11 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=884#comment-1315 @AlphaG, thanks for that article, very interesting stuff. It does add concerns around the risks of such contracts, and when exiting such a contract becomes more expensive than staying in it (or at least more risky) than you start to realise how locked in you are, and hopefully this will encourage ICT purchasers to be more in control and not allow themselves to get into these kinds of contracts in future. @AlphaG, thanks for that article, very interesting stuff. It does add concerns around the risks of such contracts, and when exiting such a contract becomes more expensive than staying in it (or at least more risky) than you start to realise how locked in you are, and hopefully this will encourage ICT purchasers to be more in control and not allow themselves to get into these kinds of contracts in future.

]]> By: AlphaG http://pipka.org/blog/2009/03/12/iceland-software-resellers-being-screwed-by-disappearing-clients-and-licensing-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-1314 AlphaG Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:23:31 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=884#comment-1314 Inline with the spirit of the post I thought this article is highly appropriate of what happens when you as a customer do want to exit some contracts and the cost savings/ramifications of doing so depending on how you used the software internally and at home. Maybe a good reason to deploy something else :-) http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Exiting-Microsoft-deals-risky/0,139023769,339295535,00.htm Inline with the spirit of the post I thought this article is highly appropriate of what happens when you as a customer do want to exit some contracts and the cost savings/ramifications of doing so depending on how you used the software internally and at home. Maybe a good reason to deploy something else :-)

http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Exiting-Microsoft-deals-risky/0,139023769,339295535,00.htm

]]> By: jdub http://pipka.org/blog/2009/03/12/iceland-software-resellers-being-screwed-by-disappearing-clients-and-licensing-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-1301 jdub Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:05:46 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=884#comment-1301 @Tel: We're not involved with www.olpc.org.au (so goofs like that come as no surprise). @Tel: We’re not involved with http://www.olpc.org.au (so goofs like that come as no surprise).

]]> By: AlphaG http://pipka.org/blog/2009/03/12/iceland-software-resellers-being-screwed-by-disappearing-clients-and-licensing-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-1291 AlphaG Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:14:54 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=884#comment-1291 Australia and this region are very different to what is expressed here in that blog. The contract in Oz is directly between the customer organisation and Microsoft. The Large Account Reseller (Microsoft Agent) then acts as a third party to satisfy orders of software and pass customer payments back to MS. Therefore is the customer does not pay an annual renewal for software assurance (which is a voluntary option the customer chooses to take) it is a contracual issue between MS and the customer though often facilitated by the LAR. The LAR is not responsible for the customers lack of contractual obligation and completing its terms and conditions. Australia and this region are very different to what is expressed here in that blog.

The contract in Oz is directly between the customer organisation and Microsoft. The Large Account Reseller (Microsoft Agent) then acts as a third party to satisfy orders of software and pass customer payments back to MS.

Therefore is the customer does not pay an annual renewal for software assurance (which is a voluntary option the customer chooses to take) it is a contracual issue between MS and the customer though often facilitated by the LAR.

The LAR is not responsible for the customers lack of contractual obligation and completing its terms and conditions.

]]> By: Tel http://pipka.org/blog/2009/03/12/iceland-software-resellers-being-screwed-by-disappearing-clients-and-licensing-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-1288 Tel Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:00:34 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=884#comment-1288 The story that I heard was that Gordon Brown (unelected PM of the UK) secretly declared the whole of Iceland to be terrorists and used EU anti-terrorist laws to block all financial transactions both in and out of Iceland (and you know, it does make it kind of difficult to keep your company trading when your customers are not allowed to pay you and your suppliers are not allowed to get paid either). Most sane people reading this would think I've been sucking on the loony juice again but there is evidence. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2008/10/24/gordon_brown_not_iceland_acted_like_a_terrorist What I actually came to talk about was the dimensions of the OLPC here http://www.olpc.org.au/laptop/hardware/specs.shtml "Approximate dimensions: 242mm x 28mm x 2mm;" I think you can be a little less approximate than that, 2mm thick? You guys should work for Apple. The story that I heard was that Gordon Brown (unelected PM of the UK) secretly declared the whole of Iceland to be terrorists and used EU anti-terrorist laws to block all financial transactions both in and out of Iceland (and you know, it does make it kind of difficult to keep your company trading when your customers are not allowed to pay you and your suppliers are not allowed to get paid either).

Most sane people reading this would think I’ve been sucking on the loony juice again but there is evidence.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2008/10/24/gordon_brown_not_iceland_acted_like_a_terrorist

What I actually came to talk about was the dimensions of the OLPC here

http://www.olpc.org.au/laptop/hardware/specs.shtml

“Approximate dimensions: 242mm x 28mm x 2mm;”

I think you can be a little less approximate than that, 2mm thick? You guys should work for Apple.

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