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	<title>Comments on: Why Australian trials are important to the OLPC vision</title>
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		<title>By: greebo</title>
		<link>http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/08/why-australian-trials-are-important-to-the-olpc-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>greebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mala

Sorry all, I modified the blog post to reflect the actual pricing. Sorry for any confusion! The cheaper rate is if you are one of the least developed nations or a &quot;partner country&quot;, which is defined by the link in my updated post.</description>
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<p>Sorry all, I modified the blog post to reflect the actual pricing. Sorry for any confusion! The cheaper rate is if you are one of the least developed nations or a &#8220;partner country&#8221;, which is defined by the link in my updated post.</p>
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		<title>By: Mala</title>
		<link>http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/08/why-australian-trials-are-important-to-the-olpc-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>Mala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pipka, super blog, the Change the World page you link to says $259 v. $219 based on country of the school, not the amount requested -- which is right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pipka, super blog, the Change the World page you link to says $259 v. $219 based on country of the school, not the amount requested&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;which is right?</p>
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		<title>By: greebo</title>
		<link>http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/08/why-australian-trials-are-important-to-the-olpc-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>greebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tel

Firstly, part of the reason I wanted to do Aussie trials to typical kids was to show that this isn&#039;t just cheap laptops we ourselves wouldn&#039;t use, but rather cutting edge educational tools that all children benefit from. I believe that the technology as a package (apps, ruggedness and the ability to collaborate in and out of the classroom) is the best option for 6-12 year olds, and am trying to bring that to Australia in a way that both assists our most in need and also through a regional sustainable approach helps all children.

I hate the patriarchal approach to aid too, but any trials done with Indigenous communities would _absolutely_ be done in full consultation and only with the agreement and internal desire from the communities to trial/deploy. I&#039;m actually in talks with some people who have spent their whole lives working with some of the most remote Indigenous communities in Australia and the first step with any community for an OLPC deployment is to show the technology to the appropriate decision makers and see what they think. Then ensure it doesn&#039;t have a negative impact on culture and families, and then ensure it integrates with their education.

If the first Aussie trial went bad, then I would personally be seriously reconsidering this project and the value it brings to anyone, but the trials have gone well, children are learning and are improving their literacy, numeracy, confidence, programming skills and more. So I think that we have a tool that all children in Australia can use to help themselves and their communities, so I want to be sure our most disadvantaged children get full access where possible and appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tel</p>
<p>Firstly, part of the reason I wanted to do Aussie trials to typical kids was to show that this isn&#8217;t just cheap laptops we ourselves wouldn&#8217;t use, but rather cutting edge educational tools that all children benefit from. I believe that the technology as a package (apps, ruggedness and the ability to collaborate in and out of the classroom) is the best option for 6-12 year olds, and am trying to bring that to Australia in a way that both assists our most in need and also through a regional sustainable approach helps all children.</p>
<p>I hate the patriarchal approach to aid too, but any trials done with Indigenous communities would _absolutely_ be done in full consultation and only with the agreement and internal desire from the communities to trial/deploy. I&#8217;m actually in talks with some people who have spent their whole lives working with some of the most remote Indigenous communities in Australia and the first step with any community for an OLPC deployment is to show the technology to the appropriate decision makers and see what they think. Then ensure it doesn&#8217;t have a negative impact on culture and families, and then ensure it integrates with their education.</p>
<p>If the first Aussie trial went bad, then I would personally be seriously reconsidering this project and the value it brings to anyone, but the trials have gone well, children are learning and are improving their literacy, numeracy, confidence, programming skills and more. So I think that we have a tool that all children in Australia can use to help themselves and their communities, so I want to be sure our most disadvantaged children get full access where possible and appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMoo</title>
		<link>http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/08/why-australian-trials-are-important-to-the-olpc-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tel - before the OLPC project existed I recall googling something that today would give you OLPC as a hit, but ending up at a site that specialised in rugged computing for mining. Big waterproof cases, low on metal parts, can bake them in an oven etc, expensive. Slightly different picture to the OLPC vision, replace little kids with burly miners who are just as insensible to delicate technology :)

I recently spent three days down in Melbourne demonstrating XOs for the public, and there were plenty of white, middle class dads that were asking &quot;were can i get one for my kid?&quot;.

When I was 5, if someone had have handed me a 400mhz laptop, I wouldn&#039;t have known what to think. Since the specs in an XO are similar to the kind that I learned all my IT on, I don&#039;t think this is a case of handing a minority something we wouldn&#039;t use ourselves, just that tech has become mature and cheap enough that we can distribute it to those who can&#039;t have computers as a spending priority in their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tel - before the OLPC project existed I recall googling something that today would give you OLPC as a hit, but ending up at a site that specialised in rugged computing for mining. Big waterproof cases, low on metal parts, can bake them in an oven etc, expensive. Slightly different picture to the OLPC vision, replace little kids with burly miners who are just as insensible to delicate technology <img width='16' height='16' src='http://pipka.org/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I recently spent three days down in Melbourne demonstrating XOs for the public, and there were plenty of white, middle class dads that were asking &#8220;were can i get one for my kid?&#8221;.</p>
<p>When I was 5, if someone had have handed me a 400mhz laptop, I wouldn&#8217;t have known what to think. Since the specs in an XO are similar to the kind that I learned all my IT on, I don&#8217;t think this is a case of handing a minority something we wouldn&#8217;t use ourselves, just that tech has become mature and cheap enough that we can distribute it to those who can&#8217;t have computers as a spending priority in their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
		<link>http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/08/why-australian-trials-are-important-to-the-olpc-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of hate the argument: we &quot;White Man&quot; give laptops to uneducated natives, and we give them equipment that we would not even use ourselves. What I hate most of all is that, this is kind of what is happening here.

Having a working Australian trial would help convince other countries that OLPC is a worthwhile technology. Conversely, if the Australian trial goes badly, then we can learn from that and have a good rethink about what the strategy is. It does seem like &quot;netbooks&quot; are hitting the market in Western countries as a result of initial interest in the OLPC project, but now every manufacturer wants to get their products into the market (which is good for competition).

I suspect that there are a lot of applications for small, rugged, highly portable, low power computers in remote areas. One example is data collection for agricultural science, or possibly the mining industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of hate the argument: we &#8220;White Man&#8221; give laptops to uneducated natives, and we give them equipment that we would not even use ourselves. What I hate most of all is that, this is kind of what is happening here.</p>
<p>Having a working Australian trial would help convince other countries that OLPC is a worthwhile technology. Conversely, if the Australian trial goes badly, then we can learn from that and have a good rethink about what the strategy is. It does seem like &#8220;netbooks&#8221; are hitting the market in Western countries as a result of initial interest in the OLPC project, but now every manufacturer wants to get their products into the market (which is good for competition).</p>
<p>I suspect that there are a lot of applications for small, rugged, highly portable, low power computers in remote areas. One example is data collection for agricultural science, or possibly the mining industry.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMoo</title>
		<link>http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/08/why-australian-trials-are-important-to-the-olpc-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Pia, makes a lot of sense to me :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pia, makes a lot of sense to me :p</p>
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		<title>By: greebo</title>
		<link>http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/08/why-australian-trials-are-important-to-the-olpc-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>greebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wayan

Of course, go for it. I think that when seen in the context of a global (or in our case, regional) strategy, it makes a lot more sense to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wayan</p>
<p>Of course, go for it. I think that when seen in the context of a global (or in our case, regional) strategy, it makes a lot more sense to people.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayan @ OLPC News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayan @ OLPC News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I republish this on OLPC News?  I think you make valid points to counter the usual criticism of XO distributions in the developed world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I republish this on OLPC News?  I think you make valid points to counter the usual criticism of XO distributions in the developed world.</p>
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