Comments on: Gorgeous diary by 8yo XO recipient in Australia http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/ ... taking over the world like we always do! Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:55:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Paul http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1105 Paul Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:11:44 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1105 @Tel: Funny you mention Steiner schools in this context. At the Steiner school where my daughter goes we are currently fighting the Victorian government to stop them imposing computers on our kids while still in primary school. Apparently the battle was lost in NSW and parts of the Steiner curriculum had to be left out so the grade 6 kids could have their computer time. If you got the NSW government to change their position, then the computers in those Steiner schools could be given to the OLPC project :-) @Tel: Funny you mention Steiner schools in this context. At the Steiner school where my daughter goes we are currently fighting the Victorian government to stop them imposing computers on our kids while still in primary school. Apparently the battle was lost in NSW and parts of the Steiner curriculum had to be left out so the grade 6 kids could have their computer time.

If you got the NSW government to change their position, then the computers in those Steiner schools could be given to the OLPC project :-)

]]> By: AlphaG http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1057 AlphaG Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:56:05 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1057 "Spelling and grammar were overrated IMHO, language tends to change ever few hundred years. It seems pretty obvious that Engrish is set to be the world language this century." Yes I agree Engalish is gunna be the write one for the warld maate. “Spelling and grammar were overrated IMHO, language tends to change ever few hundred years. It seems pretty obvious that Engrish is set to be the world language this century.”

Yes I agree Engalish is gunna be the write one for the warld maate.

]]> By: Tel http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1053 Tel Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:03:51 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1053 Quite the contrary, as technology makes old skills obsolete, it also makes new skills necessary (but no one even takes the trouble to fully explain what the new skills are). It takes all the running you can do just to stay in the same place, if you want to actually get somewhere you'll have to run twice as fast as that. Spelling and grammar were overrated IMHO, language tends to change ever few hundred years. It seems pretty obvious that Engrish is set to be the world language this century. Quite the contrary, as technology makes old skills obsolete, it also makes new skills necessary (but no one even takes the trouble to fully explain what the new skills are). It takes all the running you can do just to stay in the same place, if you want to actually get somewhere you’ll have to run twice as fast as that.

Spelling and grammar were overrated IMHO, language tends to change ever few hundred years. It seems pretty obvious that Engrish is set to be the world language this century.

]]> By: AlphaG http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1050 AlphaG Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:21:31 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1050 HaHa Tel, it goes well, so does my usage of quill and parchment. Call me mordoc. The problem I see today is most of the Gen Y in employment can't spell. write or put together sentences. They SMS in abbreviation and have started writing the same way. It may be an outcome of less than capable teaching staff or maybe a change in learning. Being online and using smarter tools like a self correcting word processor doesn't make the student any smarter. It smacks of the current line that all students get a participation award rather than some competition. We have gone soft on the new generations and giving them new tools to dumb them down, rather than teaching the core capabilities and then expanding them with progressive tools to enhance the learning HaHa Tel, it goes well, so does my usage of quill and parchment. Call me mordoc.

The problem I see today is most of the Gen Y in employment can’t spell. write or put together sentences. They SMS in abbreviation and have started writing the same way. It may be an outcome of less than capable teaching staff or maybe a change in learning. Being online and using smarter tools like a self correcting word processor doesn’t make the student any smarter. It smacks of the current line that all students get a participation award rather than some competition. We have gone soft on the new generations and giving them new tools to dumb them down, rather than teaching the core capabilities and then expanding them with progressive tools to enhance the learning

]]> By: greebo http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1049 greebo Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:27:43 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1049 Thanks for the replies everyone :) @Tel, OLPC doesn't fit in with Labor's plans at this stage as they are focused on Yr 9-12, whereas the XO is really just for K-Yr6. But the Government are certainly aware of what we're doing and interested :) Thanks for the replies everyone :)

@Tel, OLPC doesn’t fit in with Labor’s plans at this stage as they are focused on Yr 9-12, whereas the XO is really just for K-Yr6. But the Government are certainly aware of what we’re doing and interested :)

]]> By: Tel http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1047 Tel Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:10:27 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1047 AlphaG: How am I gonna learn proper horse riding skills when I drive a car? How's your flint knapping by they way? Hope you are keeping the chips nice and even. Anyway, Pia: The OLPC thing is starting to make be think of the Steiner Schools, which is another educational experiment that sort-of took off. I mean good luck with it and all, just remember that the established system has massive inertia and many hundreds of years of established teaching tradition. It isn't efficient, but it turns out a consistent result. Good to see you keeping yourself busy with it all, you're a true believer and we need that (you know, the reasonable woman would have adapted herself to suit the world). Kids are happy to be getting attention, doesn't matter what you show them, they'll go back and figure out their own stuff. Hey, can you write about the Labor govt "Laptops in Schools" program, and the NSW reaction to that (and where OLPC fits in)? Not sure what position you are in to speak your mind in public. AlphaG: How am I gonna learn proper horse riding skills when I drive a car? How’s your flint knapping by they way? Hope you are keeping the chips nice and even.

Anyway, Pia: The OLPC thing is starting to make be think of the Steiner Schools, which is another educational experiment that sort-of took off. I mean good luck with it and all, just remember that the established system has massive inertia and many hundreds of years of established teaching tradition. It isn’t efficient, but it turns out a consistent result.

Good to see you keeping yourself busy with it all, you’re a true believer and we need that (you know, the reasonable woman would have adapted herself to suit the world). Kids are happy to be getting attention, doesn’t matter what you show them, they’ll go back and figure out their own stuff.

Hey, can you write about the Labor govt “Laptops in Schools” program, and the NSW reaction to that (and where OLPC fits in)? Not sure what position you are in to speak your mind in public.

]]> By: AlphaG http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1046 AlphaG Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:26:50 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1046 hhmm How are they going to learn proper writing, spelling and grammer skills when an online word processor is going to do it all for them. I appreciate the new learning abilities that will open up for the kids, in fact my kids love all the things the web brings but having more data available doesn't make it useful information. hhmm How are they going to learn proper writing, spelling and grammer skills when an online word processor is going to do it all for them.

I appreciate the new learning abilities that will open up for the kids, in fact my kids love all the things the web brings but having more data available doesn’t make it useful information.

]]> By: David Comay http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1045 David Comay Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:03:50 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1045 What a great blog entry and a uplifter spirit-wise. Thanks for sharing that, Pia! What a great blog entry and a uplifter spirit-wise. Thanks for sharing that, Pia!

]]> By: 19zim http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 19zim Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:35:59 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1044 Of course they love it... Of course they love it…

]]> By: Alec Clews http://pipka.org/blog/2008/12/05/gorgeous-diary-by-8yo-xo-recipient-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-1042 Alec Clews Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:54:38 +0000 http://pipka.org/?p=746#comment-1042 It lost something being handwritten instead of typed on the OLPC? :-) Great +ve -- must be a nice warm feeling all over It lost something being handwritten instead of typed on the OLPC? :-)

Great +ve — must be a nice warm feeling all over

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